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Volume 38: Number 110

Mon, 21 Dec 2020

• 1. Re: Vizhnitz Rebbe Asks Chasidim To Make Kiddush This Shabbos Between 6 And 7 (Zev Sero)
• 2. Re: min hatorah (Zvi Lampel)
• 3. Re: Le'ilui Nishmas an Infant (Zvi Lampel)
• 4. Re: RSRH (Alexander Seinfeld)
• 5. Le'ilui Nishmas an Infant (Brent Kaufman)
• 6. Brocho (Ben Samson)
• 7. Rav Asher Weiss, Shlita, on the COVID-19 Vaccine (Mendel Singer)
• 8. Re: min hatorah (Rich, Joel)
• 9. Re: Rav Asher Weiss, Shlita, on the COVID-19 Vaccine (Rich, Joel)

On 20/12/20 11:10 am, Prof. L. Levine via Avodah wrote:

> I have never understood this custom.? The hours between 6 and 7 PM 
> differ depending upon where one is in the world, so if Mars is 
> controlling the world between 6 and 7 pm in EY, it seems to me that it 
> is not controlling the world in Brooklyn between 6 and 7 pm where I live.

No, it does not differ, except by the modern adjustment from actual 
solar time to Railroad Time.  On any given day Noon and Midnight are at 
exactly the same time all over the world, again before adjusting for 
Railroad Time.  And *mean* noon and midnight (which according to all 
opinions are used by halacha for "molad zaken", and according to RMF's 
family kabala are also used for all other purposes) are the same all 
over the world every day, again with the same modern adjustment.

The hourly rotation of the planets at the end of Masechta Shabbos is 
usually calculated using mean hours, so it is the same everywhere and 
throughout the year, before the modern adjustments.   The planetary 
influence affects each place when that time comes to that place, just 
like all time-based influences, such as zmanei hayom, shabbos & yomtov, etc.

What I don't understand is that in most places in the Northern 
Hemisphere, certainly in the USA and Eretz Yisrael, it should be 
possible to make kiddush *before* the hour of Mars starts, which is in 
any case the original minhag as recorded by the Maharil.

The Maharil doesn't say to wait until after Mars's hour, he says davka 
to hurry up and make kiddush under the influence of Jupiter, rather than 
that of Mars.  The emphasis is not on the negative but on the positive. 
  In the case where one did not manage this, it's not even clear to me 
that the Maharil would have approved of waiting an hour; perhaps he 
would have said next time hurry up, but now that you missed it make 
kiddush anyway.  But at any rate this week surely the Vizhnitzer Rebbe 
should have urged people to daven at the earliest zman and hurry home so 
as to make kiddush before "six o'clock" (which in EY is more like 5:40), 
instead of dawdling and getting home during that hour.



-- 
Zev Sero            Wishing everyone a *healthy* and happy 5781
z...@sero.name       "May this year and its curses end
                      May a new year and its blessings begin"

>
> The Gemara chulin 17b asks "Minayin lbdikat sakin min hatorah" (from where
> do we know that a shechita knife must be checked) and answers with a pasuk
> from navi. I couldn't find another gemara that asks this question and
> answers with a pasuk not from the Torah. Thoughts?

Kt

Joel rich


Through a data search I found two more:
Sanhedrin 91b... minayin l-tchias mesim min haTorah...Shir HaShirim 52:8
Bechoros 50a...Bikshu lignoz dinarei Hadriana, Tiryna, Shiappa mipnei tabah
shel Yerushalayim, ad shamatsu lah mikrah min haTorah she-hu
mutar...Yechezkel 7:22
And then ''remez min haTorah minayin:
Moed Kattan 5a...remez letsion kevaros min hatorah minayin...Yechezkel 39:15

Zvi Lampel
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RMB wrote:

I really don't know what le'ilui nishmas means when speaking of a nifteres

who only lived 11 weeks, and therefore didn't become old enough for the
> concept of cheit to have meaning.


Must one's neshamah have a cheit to have an aliyah? Adam Harishon kodeim
haCheit also had opportunity to rise to greater heights.

Zvi Lampel
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>
>
>At 08:02 AM 12/20/2020, Joseph Kaplan wrote:
>>RYL reiterates (38/208):
>>
>>??? I maintain that if one truly wants to understand
>>Judaism,  then one has to be familiar with the
>>writings of Rabbiner Hirsch.???
>>
>>You mean no one truly understood Judaism before the 19th century?
>You left out the part where I said that R..
>Shraga Feivel Mendelovitz told a yeshiva bachur the same thing.
>
>To gain a true understanding of Yahadus one needs
>the ability to comprehend the entire body of
>Torah knowledge.  The vast majority of Jews
>cannot do this and never did or will do this..
>RSRH does this for us in his writings.
>
>An important point. Is Judaism a religion?  RSRH
>says it is not.  Do you know why Yahadus is not a
>religion? Rabbiner Hirsch explains why it is not.
>
>If one does not know why Judaism is not a
>religion,  then one most certainly does not truly understand Judaism.
>
>YL
>

Here?s another way of looking at it - Rav Hirsch explains Judaism _for a
modern reader_ to understand in a way that no one else has done.

There is nothing in Rav Hirsch that I?ve ever seen that is conceptually
innovative, the innovation is his way of explaining both the big picture
and the details. 

If looking for a place to begin, I would suggest either his Chumash
commentary (the full one, not the abridged) or Horeb.

 
>

I would tell you that R. Saadia Gaon would agree to the fact that baby
still has a neshama that, like all neshamos, need a tikun or tikunim before
they pass away before they go up to the level above its current, bodily,
level. That's what every nisoyon that a person goes through creates - an
ilui for their neshama. You don't have to come on to gilgul neshama to ask
the question.

Some time after that, R. Saadia, might take you aside and tell you one of
two things.
Either he would say:

*"Yes, I said that because there was reason to be careful of that kind of
spiritual Zeitgeist, at the time I wrote it, that shouldn't be discussing
these things. (Perhaps: "I was sworn not to reveal these teachings to my
generation"). But when it was the Ratzon HaBorei to reveal these things to
a wider public, He did so by sending a neshama to the world 600 (or so)
years after me, named R. Yitzchak ben Shlomo Luria. From that point onward
these matters follow his teachings,..... notwithstanding a few
daatei yechidim that pop up on occasion.``*


Or he would say:

*"Yes, I did write that, and I was incorrect. Those teachings weren't clear
in my generation. The time wouldn't come for another 600 years, that it
would be the Ratzon HaBorei to reveal these things to a wider public. He
did so by sending..."*


b'Kavod to both of you,
Chaimbaruch Kaufman

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Does anyone know the special Brocho for Refuah that is found in the
Shulchan Aruch?
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https://youtu.be/CvdRqMiPfL4 <https://youtu.be/CvdRqMiPfL4>

The shiur is great. Very clear. Strong.

But I thought he was saying it was required to vaccinate, and I just 
hear Rav Willig say that he looked at the transcript and he doesn't go 
that far. I suppose it is possible it isn't the same shiur, but I doubt 
that.

Anyone else catch this shiur? What were your impressions?

mendel


-- 
Mendel E. Singer, PhD MPH
Associate Professor and Vice Chair for Education
Director, MS Biostatistics
Director, MS Biomedical and Health Informatics
Dept. of Population and Quantitative Health Sciences
Case School of Medicine
10900 Euclid Ave, WG-57
Cleveland, OH 44106
216-368-1951

Physical Address: WG-72B

The Gemara chulin 17b asks "Minayin lbdikat sakin min hatorah" (from where
do we know that a shechita knife must be checked) and answers with a pasuk
from navi. I couldn't find another gemara that asks this question and
answers with a pasuk not from the Torah. Thoughts?
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Sanhedrin 91b... minayin l-tchias mesim min haTorah...Shir HaShirim 52:8
Bechoros 50a...Bikshu lignoz dinarei Hadriana, Tiryna, Shiappa mipnei tabah shel Yerushalayim, ad shamatsu lah mikrah min haTorah she-hu mutar...Yechezkel 7:22
And then ''remez min haTorah minayin:
Moed Kattan 5a...remez letsion kevaros min hatorah minayin...Yechezkel 39:15

Zvi Lampel
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And any thoughts on why Chazal would broadly define Torah in this way in such limited circumstances?
KT
Joel RIch

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https://youtu.be/CvdRqMiPfL4 <https://youtu.be/CvdRqMiPfL4>

The shiur is great. Very clear. Strong.

But I thought he was saying it was required to vaccinate, and I just
hear Rav Willig say that he looked at the transcript and he doesn't go
that far. I suppose it is possible it isn't the same shiur, but I doubt
that.

Anyone else catch this shiur? What were your impressions?

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KT
Joel Rich
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