Volume 42: Number 52
Thu, 01 Aug 2024
Subjects Discussed In This Issue:
Message: 1
From: Joseph Kaplan
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:05:00 +0000
Subject: [Avodah] Deputy Ministers
ISTM that Jay Schachter, in his erudite post about women serving as
ministers and voting in Israel, told only part of the story. Rav Kook?s
psak is, indeed, well known. But it was not the only word on that matter
and my understanding is that the National Religious Party has not accepted
it, the Dati Le?umi community does not accept it and, indeed, women in that
community (as well, of course, in the lo dati community and many other
communities) do, indeed vote and serve as ministers and even higher (you
may have heard of Golda Meir).
The basis of what actually happens in real life in Israel (with all respect
to rav Kook and Nachama Leibowitz) is the psak of Rav Ben Zion Uziel
(Mishpatei Uziel 44) 1920- Chief Sephardi Rabbi of Eretz Yirael who ruled
in favor of not only giving the vote to women but also allowing them to run
for elected positions. Indeed, many Hareidi women not only vote but
participate in a movement not to vote for parties that exclude women from
positions as representatives (ie, the Hareidi parties). So calling Rav
Kook?s position of women not voting and not serving ?normative halacha? is,
I think, an overstatement.
Joseph
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Message: 2
From: Joel Rich
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 20:44:03 -0400
Subject: [Avodah] Appreciating Kedusha?
The halacha (see S?A O?C 143:8) for tashmishei kedusha (eg the aron kodesh)
to be donated subject to a condition that they be able to be used for a
?profane? use as well (eg putting non-sefer torah sefarim inside). This
seems to be encouraged and even if no such proactive condition is made, we
will act as if one had been made (so as to cause a stumbling block for the
unwary).
Question: what does it say about halacha and human nature that we do this
rather than educate people concerning the sanctity of tashmishei kedusha?
Similar question concerning talking divrei chol in a bet knesset?
Bsorot tovot
Joel Rich
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