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Volume 42: Number 67

Wed, 02 Oct 2024

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From: Joel Rich
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 17:51:09 -0400
Subject:
[Avodah] Intent?


Listening to a class on charity, the point was made that the donors? reason
for wanting their name on something may be positive. I was thinking of a
parallel to a prayer leader who prays with a beautiful voice. The Shulchan
Aruch states that halacha views this differently depending on whether he?s
doing so for the right reasons or the wrong reasons. In both these cases, I
wonder why isn?t there a reflection of how others seeing or hearing react
to it. In addition, how many of us can really be so self-aware as to know
what our real underlying drivers are and what are the stories we tell
ourselves. Thoughts?
KVCT and Bsorot tovot
Joel Rich
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Message: 2
From: Joel Rich
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 17:53:10 -0400
Subject:
[Avodah] chasurei?


I heard R H Schachter quote the Gra as saying that when the gemara says
chasurei meohsera vhachi katani, it doesn?t mean that there are words
missing but rather that this is the proper understanding of the original
intent which was written in terse language. Anyone know where this appears?
KVCT and Bsorot tovot
Joel Rich
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Message: 3
From: Simon Montagu
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 10:49:35 +0300
Subject:
Re: [Avodah] chasurei?


On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 5:22?AM Joel Rich via Avodah <
avo...@lists.aishdas.org> wrote:

> I heard R H Schachter quote the Gra as saying that when the gemara says
> chasurei meohsera vhachi katani, it doesn?t mean that there are words
> missing but rather that this is the proper understanding of the original
> intent which was written in terse language. Anyone know where this appears?
>

Hebrew Wikipedia sources it to here in the Gra's son's Rav Pe'alim:
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14013&;st=&pgnum=108&hilite= as
well as several other sources, including Rabbenu Bahya on Shemot 34:27

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99_%D7%9E%D7%97%D7%A1%D7%A8%D7%90#cite_note-12
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