Shaarei Yosher, sec. 3: Self-Interest – part 2

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  1. dovid says:

    “Was Rudolf Kasztner wrong in giving priority to getting his own friends and people in his political camp over other Jews onto his train to freedom?”

    Rudolf Kasztner doesn’t belong to the above narrative. He is faulted with much more than saving his pals over other Jews. He knowingly kept quiet of the Nazis’ plans to deport Hungarian Jews to their death in order to facilitate the rescue operation of his friends and those whom his camp (the Zionists) found useful to save. Tens of thousands of Jews would have escaped by crossing the border on foot to Romania, had they known what Rudolf Kasztner knew and willfully withheld from them. Both sides of the border were guarded by border police, eager to take bribes, small or big. I know this from my mother who lived just a few miles from the border. Stealing at night across the border was doable. Rudolf Kasztner made Nazis’ job possible and easy to carry out.

  2. g ross says:

    Dovid and other comment misinformed – Kasztner did not knowingly keep quiet of the Nazis plans to deport Jews. He sent young Zionists to warn, and they were told to keep quiet and not frightening the community. Some rabbis threatened to excommunicate the messengers. He also didn’t save only friends and family (100 of his family perished in Auschwitz) but orphans, rabbis, Zionists, women, children and elderly.
    You should really read history and the very informed books written now instead of continuing these untruths.

    • dovid says:

      There is a book, Perfidy by Ben Hecht, that describes Rudolf Kasztner’s trial in EY. The mashgiach of a chashuve yeshiva told me the book by-and-large is emmes.

      Besides, I had an elderly neighbor on Monsey, Mr. Frey, who worked with Rabbi Weissmandel in Slovakia to save Jews. When I asked him about Kasztner, he responded: Reb Michoel Ber (Weissmandel) was and ehrliche Yid. Thinking he didn’t hear me well, I asked him again about Kasztner. He told me again: “Reb Michoel Ber was and ehrliche Yid”.

      What’s your source that 100 of his family died in Auschwitz?
      What’s your source that Kasztner sent messengers to alert Jewish communities, and that rabbis threatened to put them in cherem?

  3. micha says:

    Could you two please take this elsewhere? This post has nothing to do with a historical analysis of Katzner. Just whether or not one particular accusation — his favoritism toward his own “kind of Jew” — is a fair one, or if such favoritism is within moral norms.

    Rav Shimon’s words seem to me to imply that looking out for your associates more than for other people is appropriate. Not that it absolves us of looking out for everyone else second.

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